Morrissey interviewed by Andy Strikes (again)
Record Mirror, February 11, 1984



The Smiths have well and truly arrived, folks. With 'What Difference Does It Make' nestling comfortably in the upper echelons of the charts, we now have conclusive proof that The Smiths are not one hit wonders nor pretenders to the latest guitar band in town crown. They are arrogant, infuriating, blindly confident and they make records bordering on brilliance.
Strike Towers has been reverberating with Morrissey's primitive crooning and Johnny Marr's precise guitar workings since 'Hand In Glove' appeared last summer. The rest of you have taken a little longer to hear the message, but now you too have been swept away by these charming men.
Morrissey is glad that we're all finally caught up with The Smiths. He knew we would, that it was all a matter of time and he's enjoying our company.
"For me, it's actually quite stunning to meet people who want to talk to me," he says over a cup of tea in his new London flat. "Of course, it's a terribly natural situation and it's really an endless pleasure."
Success has changed Morrissey's life considerably. He can now eat and dress well, but he has also had to leave his beloved Manchester, including the other Smiths, behind. Living in London is a necessity in Morrissey's eyes. There are people he needs to 'keep an eye on' if The Smiths are to tread the path he has laid down in his mind.
The 'biz' has little time for outspoken upstarts. After all, a buck is a buck and as an example of this, Morrissey expresses The Smiths' disgust at the 'New York Mix' of 'This Charming Man' which meant that no less than three versions of the song were on sale.
"I'm still very upset about that," he says firmly. "It was entirely against our principles, the whole thing, it didn't seem to belong with us. There was even a question of a fourth version which would have bordered on pantomime. It was called the Acton version, which isn't even funny."

With the other Smiths still in Manchester, isn't there a danger that their ideas and aims may begin to depart from Morrissey's own? Is it possible to plot the career of a new band when the singer lives two hundred miles away from his fellows?
"Well, we're in daily contact," Morrissey assures me. "But I don't feel I have to gaze at their profiles or anything. They do get a bit jealous sometimes, and I won't deny that they're not ecstatic when yet another interview with me appears."
Apart from the music press clambering over each other to get to Morrissey's door, The Smiths had built up a large live following long before 'This Charming Man' hit the charts. This has meant that Morrissey can practise at his great ambition -- to be a sex symbol. How's it going, I ask?
"I don't think I am a sex symbol actually, which is a great worry when one's picture appears in the music press," he laughs. "People generally bring me their problems as opposed to wanting to molest me, which of course is terribly distressing. People tend to see me as someone with a great deal of answers rather than as a sex symbol, so I'll have to work on that one a bit longer."
Morrissey as an agony uncle! The mind boggles.
"I know," he laughs, "It's very strange but I seem to be a parental figure which is completely distressing when one is twenty four years old and one is approached by people who are twenty six. It's quite amusing really, but I don't want to give any more advice on spots."
The Smiths set themselves apart from their contemporaries from the start, refusing a support slot with The Police because they were 'more important than The Police will ever be', and generally slagging off anything that made a noise. Several TV appearances later, with two hit singles and more interviews under his belt than Len Fairclough, I ask Morrissey if The Smiths can still be different, subversive to the pop machine.
"I think something still separates us from the rest of the clatter," he sighs. "Where words are concerned, I try to use lines that have not been used in the history of popular music before, and for that reason alone it should separate us. I think our audience recognise that we are different. I'm convinced people know exactly what I'm talking about, they do think we are special and I wouldn't say that if I didn't think it was true."

More arrogance from the man Morrissey? Perhaps. He's well aware of his reputation for lacking in modesty, but doesn't intend to change his ways.
"It's not really arrogance," he pleads, "If you're not dramatically shy in this business, you're an overbearing bore. It's all quite confusing. I feel that if you have something the world could benefit from, then you should put it in the front window with a red light above it."
He's quite right, of course. His stance comes simply from having an incredible confidence in The Smiths. Why beat about the bush when you know you are creating 'quite hysterically profound music' and re-writing the rock vocabulary?
Morrissey is well aware that The Smiths have had more than their fair share of media hysteria, and that it won't last forever. You can almost feel the backlash coming, perhaps with the imminent release of The Smiths' debut album, called 'The Smiths'. What else?
However, Morrissey is convinced that the band has the strength of character to survive the attack.
Morrissey tells me how he has stopped worrying about the future of The Smiths, and his willingness to 'swim in the praise' he currently enjoys. He is not complacent.
"When people see us as simply grinding out sausages as it were, we'll have the sense to take a swift exit. I don't want to bore people, so if I thought The Smiths were an absolute hindrance to the human race then we'd break up."
Morrissey won't crack up when his beloved Smiths have run their course. He has literary ambitions, including a screen play.
"There's a lot I want to do," he tells me. "It doesn't all end with my thrusting a gladioli under Richard Skinner's nose. There's a lot I want to achieve, most of which is illegal."
Morrissey is a witty young man, possibly due to his passion for Oscar Wilde, a man who would surely have formed The Smiths himself had he been born in the nineteen sixties. Most of Morrissey's claims and dreams are relayed with his tongue firmly in his cheek. You can't take the man at face value, but you can listen to The Smiths' music, proof enough of their exceptional talents.
I for one can't wait to hear the album, though I'll be among the first to complain if The Smiths let us down. Morrissey doesn't see much chance of that, as he explains.
"I really do expect the highest critical praise for the album," he says calmly. "I think it's a complete signal post in the history of popular music."
We shall see, my friends, we shall see.

This article was originally published in the February 11, 1984 issue of Record Mirror.
Reprinted without permission for personal use only.