Marr Speaks
Johnny Marr
discusses leaving The Smiths
NME News,
August 8, 1987


The split in the ranks of The Smiths - exclusively
reported in last week's NME while the other titles were blithely
announcing tour dates - has now been confirmed by the group's record
company, Rough Trade.
A statement issued on behalf of the band (but written, it later
transpired, without the knowledge of guitarist/composer Johnny Marr) ran:
"The Smiths announce that Johnny Marr has left the group. However they
would like to confirm that other guitarists are being considered to
replace him. The Smiths would like to state that although Johnny's
departure is sad, they wish him every happiness and success with his
future projects."
The obvious questions thrown up by this statement - What exactly
constitutes "the concept" of The Smiths? Can that concept possibly
survive the departure of half of the band's creative force? Who are those
"other guitarists"? - remain unanswered. Some of the mysteries
surrounding the break-up of Britain's biggest (still) independent band
were, however, cleared up when Marr himself rang NME to
put his side of the case.
"First of all," he said, "it's very important to me to clear up some of
the inaccuracies that were in your story last week. There is nothing even
approaching 'acrimony' between myself and the other members of the band.
I've known them all a long time and I love 'em. Nor was there any truth
in the idea that Morrissey has any problem with the company I keep,
personally or work-wise; we're very different people and lead different
kinds of lives but that stuff is just patently untrue. And lastly, the
stuff about me using record company funds to pay for a trip to America is
totally wrong."
Why, then, the split?
"I'm not denying that there weren't certain problems involving
the band, and it's also very true that a group like The Smiths can begin
to take over your whole life and all your energy. That's certainly
happened to me, but the major reason for me going was simply that there
are things I want to do, musically, that there is just not scope for in
The Smiths."
The infamous "musical differences"?
"I've got absolutely no problem with what The Smiths are doing.
The stuff we've just done for the new album is great, the best we've ever
done. I'm really proud of it. But there are things that I want to do
that can only happen outside of The Smiths."
One potential source of acrimony yet to emerge from the split is the use
of the name "The Smiths". Marr was genuinely surprised when informed that
Morrissey intended to continue using it, but contented himself, when
pressed for a response, with "I think that's probably tied up in a whole
load of legal things..."
Although understandably uncertain about his immediate plans, Marr intends
getting back into public view as soon as possible.
"I've already recorded some stuff and it's gone really well. If the rest
of it goes as well, there's every chance that I'll be forming a permanent
group, though obviously it's a little early to be too certain about that.
But I definitely want to have some live dates set up by the new year at
the latest, regardless of the situation with other musicians."
"Part of the reason I've spent so much time in America recently is to get
exposed to some different music. The stuff in this country at the moment
has got me baffled; I can't find much in any of it. but it's a pleasure
listening to new ideas and trying to use them. I've not been unhappy with
the things I've done up to now - far from it - so don't expect me to
explode off into some crazy new direction, but there will be some
changes..."
Any further thoughts on the parting of the ways?
"I don't want to get too over-emotional about this but I really am
massively proud of all the things that The Smiths have done and achieved
and so from that point of view, of course, it's all really sad, especially
for the group's fans who've always been brilliant. But on the other hand,
I'm looking forward to doing new things, and to hearing what Morrissey
will come up with. I think the change will actually do him a lot of good.
I certainly hope so. But, in the final analysis, the thing that used to
make me happy was making me miserable and so I just had to get out."
"But I never, ever, wanted to turn The Smiths into The Rolling
Stones. That was just more lazy journalistic bullshit..."

So what becomes of the "million
dollar" long term deal The Smiths have
with EMI? No doubt it will have to be renegotiated, as it is unlikely the
label will want to commit themselves to a lengthy contract with what is,
without Marr, an unknown commodity.
Nick Gatfield, head of A&R at EMI, couldn't shed much light on the
situation: "It's all up in the air at the moment, we're not sure what's
going to happen."
But Gatfield did confirm that EMI have the rights to any recorded product
from either Marr or Morrissey's revamped Smiths.
"Both artists have signed on the dotted line, every contract has a clause
which gives the label the rights to any work they do whether the band
splits up or not. Essentially we now have two acts for the price of
one."
That may be so, but with The Smiths split right down the middle, who can
guarantee there will be positive creative results from either camp? And
what of the name? Morrissey intends to continue under the banner of "The
Smiths" but he could face a new legal obstacle along the way.